What's the Fate of Pa.’s Voter ID Law?

Pennsylvania's new voter ID law has been challenged in court. What do you think? Should you be required to show identification to vote?


In March, Pennsylvania legislators passed a strict voter ID law, requiring all voters to show “acceptable" identification before voting. Voting rights groups challenged the law in court, arguing it’s unconstitutional.

The case concluded Thursday, and the judge will give his decision the week of Aug. 13.

What is your decision? Should you be required to show ID to vote? Why? Why not? Tell us in comments.

To get up-to-date on the controversy, Here’s .

Kate August 04, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Oh, and ALEC.
Elizabeth Coleman August 04, 2012 at 10:21 PM
I'm really on board with the fingerprint idea. That way, everyone who wants to vote would be able, and no ID (like ID's can't be falsified) issue. Problem solved. I'd give my fingerprint in order to vote.
Kate August 04, 2012 at 10:21 PM
I am a democrat. I have NO problem with a photo ID. I believe 1) the law should take effect in 2016 (or 2014 at the earliest); 2) the access (DMV) doesn't work for a lot of folks - rotate picture ID facilities in libraries, schools, courthouses, DMV, post office, etc.; 3 develop an effective education process for compliance - not hire a GOP fundraiser to do the job. If those things were done I might not believe that this is being done simply to throw the election to Romney. After all, it was one of your own elected state officials that was filmed saying to a group of cheering republicans - "now that we've passed voter ID, Romney will take PA."
Kate August 04, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Would it eliminate all those gop orgs who notify voters their polling place has changed when it hasn't.
Kate August 04, 2012 at 10:23 PM
I agree.
Chris August 04, 2012 at 10:40 PM
This bill was also passed years ago when Ed Rendell was Governor and vetoed by him.
Chris August 04, 2012 at 10:43 PM
This bill was also passed years ago when Ed Rendell was Governor and vetoed by him. To Kate "Romney will take PA" comment was made because of the cheating going on in Phila. and Pittsburgh.
Chris August 04, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Great comments on all your posts and rebuttals.
Kate August 04, 2012 at 10:50 PM
For all those posting about the supposed cheating in Phila and Pitts, why, oh why, did the state stipulate that they could not find ONE example of in person voter fraud. Not one.
KevinP August 05, 2012 at 12:50 AM
I just saw something fly past Kate's head. I think it was the point.
Liberty 1 August 05, 2012 at 01:06 AM
Kate - WOW back at ya! You guys on the left really make me laugh. So dramatic! Yea, I wish all dems to die. I am not a goper as you like to put it - far from it - but lefties are the real plague, and I am all for a mass vaccination. But you guys are funny. Get a sense of humor and get over yourselves.
Mike Shortall Sr August 05, 2012 at 01:24 AM
Because voter fraud - when it occurs has to be reported, and be prosecutable. If the voting fraud is indeed occurring in Philly and Pittsburgh, who's there to find it then report it? Certainly the Democrats aren't going to throw the flag on themselves, if they're doing it. That's whay there's no record of voting fraud in Pennsylvania.
Elizabeth Coleman August 05, 2012 at 01:27 AM
Why weren't the Republicans able to find it if it exists?
Mike Shortall Sr August 05, 2012 at 04:13 AM
Because the politicians in control of places like Philadelphia aren't going to report voter fraud they wholeheartedly endorse.
tom August 05, 2012 at 11:29 AM
I think it is great how many of the folks who state that having an ID does not create a hardship for the poor, the elderly and those with mental illness are donating their time and money to assist folks with paying for the supportive documentation needed to get the "free ID" as well as to take them to any locations they need to go to fill out the forms for the documentation. And the outpouring of offers to then take folks to the polls on election day, it is just so heartwarming to see that these folks are not trying to suppress the poor, the elderly and those with mental illness--they are truly dedicated to making certain everyone gets to vote! Rumor has it that ALEC is spending $30 million to hire ID coaches to assist those who need support, money and transportation to secure an ID! What a wonderful way to create jobs and make certain that the country continues to value everyone's vote...what is that sound? What? The damn alarm! Don't tell me it's time to wake up already! Well it was a nice dream while it lasted...
ToolFoole August 05, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Wwaaaa, cry me a river! Save the drama for your Mama. How much of a hardship is it to call or write or email or use the votesPA website to get an absentee ballot? There is NO NEED to "go" anywhere! All they need to do is provide their name and the last 4 digits of their SS#. In the time it took you to write your post, you could have gone to the website to see for yourself all the myriad of ways for anyone in any situation to vote. But that doesn't make for good drama. Here it is again, in case you're so inclined: Home page: http://www.votespa.com/portal/server.pt/community/home/13514 Photo ID page: http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=1174114&parentname=ObjMgr&parentid=4&mode=2
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Remember the old Philly maxim-----"vote early, vote often"
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:05 AM
photo ID is necessary for more than voting. If this makes people go get it they they're ahead. I've helped people who have needed several kinds of aid----shared ride for one---have to prove age and that it's actually you. They there's new doctors--referred to a new Dr---alway have to prove who you are---MEICARE fraud---you know. If there's medicare fraud why wouldn't there be voting fraud
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:07 AM
Not disenfranchised----just having to do a little work--expend a bit of energy.
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:08 AM
what's the rush job----it's been months with time still to go No wonder the US is falling behind the rest of the word. In Europe everyone carries an ID--can't even check into a hotel without
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:09 AM
Plenty of proof
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:11 AM
Where in the name of all that is holy I anyone TAKING AWAY a right to vote. Get up off you butt and do what is necessary
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:12 AM
Good golly---do you think that it would occur to Ed Rendell that doing that would increase Liberal chances to get him re-elected Hmmm ??????
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:14 AM
Give us a timeline--how much is not a hurry ?????
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:17 AM
This kind of ID is very good to prove you have already voted----But how do you prove you're no voting for your decease father whose name you have. (or mother)
a m mulroney August 06, 2012 at 01:18 AM
I understand in Phily this is considered a constitutional right
Patrick C August 06, 2012 at 06:04 PM
I agree ToolFoole, but I don't think we go far enough, we should follow the Athenian model, make voting mandatory. That way everyone will finally be responsible for our Democracy. Of course if this happened Republicans would never get a president elected but voter fraud would be at zero.
tom August 07, 2012 at 02:17 AM
Your empathy is overwhelming, I must say. Thank you for the links; some of the folks I know may be able to use these. Nevertheless, in reading the various pages, it appears that, although one need only supply the last four digits of one's soc sec # to obtain an absentee application, once one receives the application, one must get a physician's signature. Most PCP offices charge patients for extra paperwork, and even if they don't, it may be a hardship to get to the doctor's office. Btw, if you don't enjoy drama, maybe comedy is more your cup of tea--in which case you might want to check out Mr. Romney's campaign. Just kidding!
William Crielly August 07, 2012 at 03:35 AM
And how about all the dead people who vote every year in Phila. How are they going to get a photo ID?
Steve Sears August 13, 2012 at 09:21 PM
I've researching the PA Commonwealth Court Judge - Robert E. Simpson Jr. - whose will determine whether the PA Voter ID is LEGAL. From what I can find my evaluation is that he will find the PA Voter ID an infringement on the legal right to vote as written in the PA Constitution. Here a link to more information about Judge Simpson Jr. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20120813_Voter-ID_case_puts_spotlight_on_Pa__judge.ht


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